Friday, September 26, 2008

"Myths About Satanism" By Some Vindictive Bitch

Hey, all. I found this on the blogsite of Witch Hex---who I do not know, but I suspect is a Wiccan of some sort. I have no problem with her, anyway, but she had this "Myths About Satanism--not written by me" thing. I have no idea why she posted something not written by her, or what her position actually is. Nor do i have a clue who actually wrote it, as Witch Hex doesn't say. Anyway, I thought it might be fun to dissect her...I mean it...whoopsie.

Myths About Satanism
(Author Unknown but Sounds Like a Pissy Woman to Me)

Myth 1. Religion and pleasure automatically exclude each other.
LaVey paints a one-dimensional picture of religion as solely being a bleak life of asceticism and denial, with never any happiness or joy. Apparently only people who crave misery become Christians, according to LaVey. Accepting this myth is actually the first step to becoming a Satanist. The truth is, Christians can have very happy productive and fulfilling lives - - because they're Christians, not in spite of it.

I wonder where LaVey ever got that idea?

Whoever loves pleasure will be a poor man;
he who loves wine and oil will not be rich. Proverbs 21:1

Regardless, the statement that Christians are happy because they are Christian, not in spite of it, can't be quantified in any real way. Maybe some are. Maybe the fellowship and commonality of purpose makes them happy.

In any event a life that is lived in pursuit of what will happen after death, ie. ascension to Heaven or descending to Hell is no life for a responsible, reasonable human. It devalues life here and now.

Myth 2. Man is naturally violent, and therefore, being violent is natural.

This advice appeals to juvenile delinquent teens, anti-social misfit types, and psychotics - - all who want to lash out at the world. It's no surprise then that LaVey was a wife beater and part time pimp that abused his own animals! LaVey says Satanists should lash out at anyone who gives them a problem. Rather than see aggression as a result of frustration, LaVey instead encourages readers to act upon it. Frustrated young people learn a dangerous lesson: hostility is normal and should be acted upon. LaVey is teaching people "hostility and helplessness", rather than giving them a reason to work out their problems. If you follow LaVey's advice, you'll eventually wind up in jail. The fact of the matter is, man is not born violent, but learns it. Man enters the world with cooperative tendencies and has to be taught violent ones. Psychologist Anthony Moriarity in his book The Psychology of Adolescent Satanism: A Guide for Parents, Counselors, Clergy, and Teachers sites studies done by anthropologists to back this up, namely Monatgu (1950) Bandura(1973) Baron (1985) It makes sense if you think about it, because children raised in violent homes often grow up to be violent themselves, whereas children from non-violent homes usually do not. Since it's actually unnatural to be violent, Satanism is therefore unnatural too.


Let us begin with facts--something our Christian friend here would do well to try--as in not bearing false witness against her dead and defenseless neighbor. 1. Anton LaVey was never arrested, let alone convicted of any crime involving violence against his wife or anyone or anything (animal) else. 2. These worn out accusations have come solely from those who have started competing religious organizations or wanted money earned by the very philosophy they either wanted to steal or conversely, denigrate. 'just a bit hypocritical, eh? 3. All citations are pre-1985, happily ignoring the FBI's Lanning Report of 1992 disproving every single statement made by this lying bitch. Now, I will attempt to avoid the obvious irony of a Christian denying the violent nature of man--considering that until recently Christians have held the gold standard in violently forcing those who don't believe their way into utter submission. I will however remind all readers that Satanists have not flown planes into packed buildings. Have not allowed Children to burn to death for God's grace. Have not burned people at stakes. Have not beheaded women for being raped. Nope, these were all monotheistic believers in Heaven, Hell, Retribution and Grace. But, man isn't violent, huh? LaVey didn't ENDORSE violence, per se, he called a spade a spade, and directed his members not to get lost in the should be, rather than the is. In fact, in keeping with giving unto Caesar, The Church of Satan demands all members be law-abiding, and terminates the memberships of those found to be guilty of violent crimes against persons. Catholics move pedophiles. Protestants preach forgiveness of criminals, even murderers. ONLY Satanists take swift and complete action against violent law breaking members.
As for Satanism appealing to a) Juvenile Delinquents--We don't accept members under 18.
b) anti-social misfits---By the Christian definition, probably true. By a psychological definition, not even close.

Myth 3. Good and evil are reversed.
This is the way sociopaths and psychopaths think, more or less. LaVey believed religion couldn't meet the needs for today's people, and furthermore what it teaches is wrong. LaVey had a very bigoted and narrow-minded view of religion, and failed to see the many positive aspects religious institutions create (e.g., hospitals, orphanages, universities, disaster relief, great works of art, etc.,). Moriarty notes concerning LaVey's role reversal, "Through the manipulation of psychological factors, LaVey exploits the powerful learning process of negative reinforcement to his advantage. In effect, if the reader is not persuaded by the merits of Satanism, he or she will find in it a consolation from escaping the intolerable alternative - - religion as described by LaVey." LaVey builds up a straw man...bleak religion where everyone is miserable...then tears it down, winning converts to his religion.

This is the most common misconception people have about Satanism--that good and evil are somehow reversed. Nothing could be further from the truth. Satanists love. In fact their love is even more meaningful than the Christian variety because it isn't doled out to every neighbor on the planet. Satanists also hate, but they do not feel that hate is in and of itself evil. Should we not hate the 9/11 terrorists? If not why are we waging war against those we love? Should we not hate those who seek to harm us---is that evil? The point here is that good vs. evil is an antiquated notion with no real meaning.

God/Religion didn't create the natural laws that helped primates climb out of the trees. Early man learned that killing without sound reason only created more killing, likewise stealing, etc...those rules didn't come on stone tablets, but from the early hominid's collective experience allowing them to develop into later hominids. Words like good and evil, when bandied about simplistically, become fodder for relativism.


Law is for the common good and allows the individual the freedom to pursue his goals in relative peace. That is good.

Evil--to the Satanist, would be a lack of law that enables the individual responsible freedom.

As for winning converts, it should seem obvious that had LaVey wished to win them, he wouldn't have claimed that "Satanists are born, not made," he wouldn't have demanded a no proselytizing rule for his religion, and he wouldn't have charged a relatively large membership cost.

Next--on charity. LaVey shunned altruism because he knew it wasn't altruistic. Creating ways to keep suffering people alive only gives them the ability to breed more suffering people. Conversely I don't know a Satanist alive who doesn't have some pet cause or charity that they support. The difference is they aren't doing it for brownie points from god, but out of genuine caring. I often wonder how much good Christians would do if there were no ticket to Heaven attached?

As for sociopaths---talk about denial! Christians give folks a god to thank and a devil to blame. Satanists put the responsibility on the individual. Logic (not to mention experience and statistics) dictates that giving people a constant scapegoat will reduce their awareness of self-responsibility, and that lack of awareness will increase criminal behavior.

Myth 4. Satanism will make one strong.
Young people especially ( and ones who don't fit in with others in particular) are lured by this myth. Young people want to be strong, and since LaVey tells them "white light" religions like Christianity will make them weak, he makes it appear there is no choice but Satanism if they want to be strong. Christianity in fact, gives people inner strength, and bravery. For instance, it takes guts to hide Jews in your house from the Nazis like Corrie Ten Boom and her family did. From the point of physical self-defense, very few Christians think Jesus meant to allow themselves to be beaten and not defend themselves. There are even Christian martial arts associations and Christian strong man groups. Christianity teaches things should be done in balance and in proper perspective. Like proverbs says, there's a time to sow, a time to reap, a time to gather stones, and a time not to, a time to make war, a time to make peace. Even Jesus chased the money changers out of the Temple with a cat-o-nine tails on two separate occasions, showing there was a time to use physical violence if for the right reason. The money changers were crooks who cheated people. What Jesus meant when he said to turn the other cheek was to not hold grudges and feel a need to strike back at every offense, but to forgive. Furthermore, Satanists are not strong individuals who "stand on their own two feet" anyway. They all belong to a personality cult centered around Anton LaVey, and are actually quite weak from that stand point. Labeling themselves as Satanists only makes people not take them seriously, rather than have an actual advantage, and only weakening their overall personal image.


Satanism does not make you anything. It never says that it does. In fact, a Satanic adage is about reality--The strong rule the weak, and the cunning rule over all. Again, this is how the world IS, not how it should be.

However, I will live and die secure in the knowledge that FAITH is a weakness. It serves only those who lack the courage to face reality and KNOW something. I am standing on my own two feet, not kneeling before some imaginary papa figure, begging for forgiveness. My strength comes from inner divinity, that no matter what else, I alone am responsible for my achievements and my mistakes. I can thank no god, and I can blame no devil.

And while I owe a debt of gratitude to Anton LaVey for putting my inherent feelings into the written word, for codifying it and giving it a name, for creating a religious organization that allows me fellowship with others who think the same, I do not worship him.

Evidently I need to worship a lot less than the bitch who wrote this clap trap needs to vilify.

Moreover, if Satanism could claim to make someone something it would seem counter-productive for it to say that Satanists are born, not made.

And here we see what all Christians do when faced with a dichotomy in their precious Bible---they simply re-interpret it:

From the point of physical self-defense, very few Christians think Jesus meant to allow themselves to be beaten and not defend themselves---then what is that whole offering the other cheek thing about? What Jesus meant when he said to turn the other cheek was to not hold grudges and feel a need to strike back at every offense, but to forgive--Before or after I defend myself? Fucksakes! You'd think the Messiah could be a tad less cryptic, huh?

I am starting to believe that the Holy Bible is the ultimate book on hedging one's bets and that the contradictory nature of it may just be intentional.

Myth 5. "Live for the here and now". This one is such a clusterfuck that it needs to be dealt with from concept to concept:

LaVey mocks Christianity's belief in an afterlife, and said people should only live for the here and now. This is another myth that hooks young people, since many of them act on impulses and have little concern for life in the years ahead.

Which concept is more likely to make someone act on impulse:
A) There is only one life so make the best of it, or
B) This life is only dress rehearsal for the afterlife. Provided you ask for forgiveness and believe in Jesus Heaven awaits, regardless of your actions?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........................

All the world's religions, not just Christianity, have rules which benefit people in the here and now by transcending the individual and benefiting the group as a whole. Rules such as not murdering, not stealing, not committing sexual immorality, lying, etc., benefit everyone.

I touched on this above. It galls me the way Christians, in fact most religions, take credit for natural laws that predate their sorry churches by thousands of years! I don't need a fucking scroll or a threat of eternal damnation to tell me not to kill my neighbor! I worry about the people who do!

Religion isn't simply about what happens after one dies, as LaVey thought.

No, it is more about relinquishing personal responsibility for the way one lives.


By making people feel as though they should act on every impulse, LaVey is teaching those young readers who might not deal constructively with their problems (and are most likely to act on impulsive behavior) a dangerous thing, and could lead them into trouble.

I have never read a single Satanic work by LaVey that tells anyone to act on every impulse. This is the problem with Christian propaganda--either they lie, or they can't read.

Furthermore, in the next decade after LaVey wrote the Satanic Bible, there were numerous cases of people who were clinically dead that experienced glimpses of life after death, many of which could not simply be written off as hallucination. There are both cases of people who saw Heaven and those who saw Hell. Such things should be investigated thoroughly before leaving it up to a high school dropout like LaVey to decide if there's no afterlife.

OMIFUCKINGGOSHDARN! Are you kidding? There are equal amounts of people who'll tell you they didn't see jackshit. I'm rooting for the people who weren't brain-washed by years in the pews. Imagine the poor Christian who dies for 5 minutes and saw or felt nothing....do you think for a nanosecond he'll want to admit that? Even to himself?

'seems to me this would be the one thing that God would do well to clarify.

Myth 6. Satanism will make one powerful.
This myth appeals to people who feel powerless in their own lives. For some people, dressing in black and wearing a Baphomet pendant when they go to the mall can scare people, perhaps giving them a false sense of power from the fear they generate. All they're really doing is participating in anti-social behavior. Some Satanists do believe the spells in the Satanic Bible work...at least at first until they try them enough times to realize they don't. While LaVey claims his occult system is unique, the promise of quick and undeserved power is something every occult system promises. What Satanists don't realize is this appeal for power is a symptom of masking the helplessness in their own lives. Satanism is simply a way of running away from their problems instead of trying to solve them.

Once more, with feeling, Satanism is unique in that makes no promises at all. It doesn't make you powerful, only you can do that.

However, the one place where I feel all religions, even Satanism, meet up, is in the magic department. For the Christians it is called prayer--but really, reading out of a book while wishing for a desired result, I dunno, sounds like magic to me.

*Every spell works.. It doesn't matter who wrote it, or where it came from.. All that matters is the belief that it wll work. -Witch Hex

The above line shows the Wiccan viewpoint, using self-psychology to enable personal change.

For the Satanist, the only difference is the honest acceptance that there is no spirit or god or external to do the bidding. Ritual psychodrama allows the Satanist to re-set or re-boot the mind to shift its energies and get on with the task at hand.

Myth 7. A person has to chose between sex or religion. (No, just GOOD sex and religion...ok, just kidding)
There's no way to have both. Another straw man LaVey builds is that it is impossible to be a Christian and enjoy sex. What LaVey is doing is forcing young readers (who don't know as much about life or sex as they would like to think) to choose sex over religion, when they can actually have both. LaVey's bull is very effective on adolescents, because they're coming into their sexual identity, and when they read sexual feelings, emotions and angst, are part of being a Satanist (as though no one else had such feelings!) they feel therefore they too must be Satanists. Christians enjoy sex just as much as anyone else does. Like all religions, Christians believe sex is sacred and should be between a man and wife, and monogamous relationships prove to be better in an era of STDs. Simply thinking you can sleep with whomever and whenever you want, doesn't actually happen in reality. LaVey claims that Christianity forbids masturbation, but this is not what the Bible actually says. Some people think that Genesis 38 prohibits masturbation, but it does not. God's displeasure with Onan in Genesis 38 is based on Onan's disobedience to the old law which required him to father a child by his dead brother's wife. It has nothing to do with masturbation. Emission of semen, however, was unclean under the law, and a man needed to make an offering for it. (See Leviticus 15.) It was a minor offense, comparable to accidentally soiling your undergarments. However, the law regarding clean and unclean things was repealed by God in Peter's vision, as described in Acts 10. So emission of semen became clean theoretically, just as eating of pork became clean. This idea is confirmed by Romans 14:14, where Paul says, "I know and am persuaded in the Lord that nothing is unclean in itself; but it is unclean for anyone who thinks it is unclean." Masturbation isn't listed anywhere as an "abomination," or anywhere among the various lists of prohibited sexual practices. (See Leviticus 18.) Adultery is prohibited; rape is prohibited; incest is prohibited; homosexual sex is prohibited; sex with animals is prohibited, (and all these acts are banned in all the other religions of the world as well). But masturbation is not even mentioned.

But whoring your daughters out to an angry mob to save some angels is alrighty.
Impregnating 15 year old girls is ok, too.
Polygamy is more than ok.
And, if incest is forbidden, who were Cain & Abel fucking?
Marrying is better than having dirty thoughts....

I could go on and on.

The Bible is dirty book, and I am not talking about the fun Songs of Soloman parts, either.

This recent Christian phenomena to reduce the Bible's anti-sex stance in order to finally accept the human need for intimacy is probably a good thing, but it is a lie, nonetheless.

LaVey's stance on sex was simple and needs little explanation. What goes on between consenting adults is all good.

If Christianity is so worried about the carnal nature of man luring them into Satanism because of that, they can blame their god for creating such horny people.

Myth 8. Satanism embraces science.
Obviously, science is at odds with magic, and The Satanic Bible clearly states that magic can work, even though some Satanists are now trying to pretend it doesn't say it. The Satanic Bible is based on the idea that magic can effect people's minds if done at the time of the night when they are in their "dream state", indicating the idea was derived from the theory of ESP. ESP has never actually been proven in any laboratory at any time. The military even invested millions of dollars in "remote viewing" experiments in the 80's (supposedly Michael Aquino was involved in the project) and discovered it didn't work. LaVey also believed heavily in the ideas of Dr. Wilhelm Reich, who is dismissed by all Psychiatrists as a fraud and a quack. Even if you define Satanism as some kind of "applied psychology" (which it isn't), it could only be considered quackery. Plenty of Christians believe in Evolution and The Big Bang, and several Christian denominations have issued formal statements endorsing them (The Roman Catholic Church, The Anglican Church, The Lutheran Church, etc.). The idea that the Creation account in Genesis had to be taken literally was not the original view(click here). Luther for instance, criticized St. Augustine because he thought the Creation account was a metaphor.

Satanism embraces science.
Satanism embraces applied psychology.
The same bitch arguing the point just tried to pass off an afterlife, and is about to validate demonic possession.


Myth 9. The Christian Church invented the idea of the Devil just to frighten people into joining the Church because it couldn't exist without him.
Every religion on earth believes in the existence of evil spirits and devils. Pre-Christian religions teach a belief in demons (e.g., Hinduism, Shintosm, & Zoroastrianism to name just 3). Even The Satanic Bible mentions the names of pre-Christian Pagan devils such as Loki, Lilith, and Kali. LaVey claimed a Voodoo cult in New Orleans was part of the lineage of the Church of Satan. Voodooists believe in evil spirits as well as good spirits, and know there is a distinct difference between the two. The idea that Christians re-named Pagan deities as devils is an outdated theory that arose out of bad scholarship in the 19th century. One of the biggest proponents of that idea was Margaret Murray, the grandmother of Wicca...the very kind of person Satanism is supposed to balk at. Her books were discredited by her peers practically as soon as the ink dried in them. There have been documented cases of demonic possession which can not be explained as mental illness. The case of a Maryland boy in 1949 that the novel The Exorcist was based on is just one example. Human tradition in every culture on earth believes demons are evil beings that wish us harm. It isn't simply a "Christian thing."

*The statement that Loki, Lilith, and Kali are pagans devils is incorrect..-Witch Hex

Yeah--but none of them made quite the sack of money on the concept than the Christians did.

And, truthfully, we're dealing with primarily Western Culture, here, but regardless, today's Satanist finds a belief in ANY literal external entity equally bullshit.

Myth 10. Everything new, different, and innovative is "Satanic" and original thinkers are "Natural Satanists".
What LaVey did was try to change the definition of the terms "Satanic" and "Satanism". This is the same thing Wiccans do when they try to claim "witchcraft" is an ancient pagan religion and the word "witch" meant "wise one". In reality, these two things have nefarious meanings in every culture. LaVey, ironically, used to chide the "white witches" for doing this, when he was basically doing the same thing. For instance, he claimed Duisenberg automobiles were "Satanic" in their design. Just because something is eye-catching or different doesn't make it Satanic. A grisly slaying is Satanic, not a cherry car. LaVey simply tried to change the meaning of a word. Likewise, people who think outside the box aren't Satanists. LaVey thought Tiny Tim was a natural Satanist because he was had the only vaudeville act in the 1960's. Tiny Tim was in fact a Christian! He read the Bible everyday, made public confessions of his faith in his later years (such as on the WTMV Richard Shanks Show in the late 80's as just one example), was polite to everyone, and friends say he was quite serious about his religion. He would have been offended for being called a Satanist,
Just to demonstrate that we are not a LaVey cult will it surprise the writer of this twaddle that I've never gotten the Tiny Tim thing?

The writer just keeps ignoring the most pertinent fact about Satanism: It is a religion of INDIVIDUALS, with differents tastes and dislikes, with a shared dogma, but a variety of ways of expressing it. However, she is making the appropriate point about Satanists/Satanism while attempting to discredit it--that throughout history those who were different in their sense of self, in their independent spirit and were continually villified by the culture's status quo. They were demonized for being unique, and for standing up on their own two feet while others cowered on their knees begging to a non-existant god for salvation.

Myth 11. People will take you seriously as a Satanist.
People are going to think you're a nut, weirdo, and loser when you tell them you're a Satanist. Don't expect to ever have a good paying job, be elected to office, or have normal people think you're not a flake when you tell them you're a Satanist. They're no different from wiccans who insist on being called witches who then act hurt and claim "persecution" when people get scared of them. If negative attention is all you want, being a Satanist will do it. If you seriously think you're going to be the "Alien Elite" you'd better do a reality

Wow. It is rare to see someone so proud of being a prejudiced bigot and attempting to validate ignoring the First Amendment with such glee. Thumbs up!

Here is a little clue--each and every one knows a Satanist. Oh, yes--they really do. The 80's taught us a thing or two about keeping our mouths shut. I know Satanic doctors, lawyers, nurses, mechanics, computer programmers, teachers, etc.....they many not tell you, because telling would allow people like this snarling cunt prevent them from enjoying this one life, but everyone does know one or maybe two. They probably like them.

You see, the days of dressing all in black are over. It became passe and dull once all the silly goth kids got a hold of it.

The days of screaming protests and demanding equal rights went away, too, when, on the whole, we discovered we could get what we want by becoming what we were accused of---secretive.

Me? I am an anomaly--a holdover from the past. I did too much media and stuff to pretend to be anything than what I am, so I am the public side of Satanism. I exist so that thousands of others of my kind can quietly enjoy all this wonderful world has to offer, without fear and discriminiation.

The fact is that Christians need not fear sacrifices, or murders or any of that silly bullshit Satanists have been accused of for years. It wasn't true before and it isn't true now. What they should fear is what we really are---responsible people who will never relinquish that power to a god. We are the polar opposite of faith and belief, and as we quietly grow, our influence grows without even trying.

So don't worry about the black wearing malcontent coming from our religion to shoot up your schools---we've rejected him. He has gotten all his info on Satanism from the pews and people like this writer. The one absolute truth in the Holy Bible is you reap what you sow, and Christianity has created the kind of heretic they claimed we are.

Y

4 comments:

Hex said...

Nope, not wiccan.. I don't know if you have read any of my other blog posts, but I spend a lot of time speaking ill about them too.. Anyway, I don't know who wrote it, it was posted through a yahoo group.. I'm glad it stirred up some interest though..
I'll post your enrty on my blog too if you like.. I'll even enclude the things you said about me personally..
Anyway, I found your post informative..
Hex..

Magistra_Y said...

Thanks, Hex.

Good to know, btw, I am just starting to read your stuff and enjoying it. I apologize for my religious presumption.

Best,

Y~

Hex said...

I am 'the' person to swap rants with.. Seriously :)

I'm adding your blog to my blog list.. I haven't read much, but I love what I have read so far..

A.C. Fisher Aldag said...

Hi, it's Ace here to pester you again. I'm having fun with this.

Satanism encourages violence... hmm. Taking a brief poll amongst the most violent people I know (yeah, it's sujective, but...) first, the twenty or so serving life in a maximum security prison:

I see one European shaman, two Native American shamans, two Asatrur, two Muslims and thirteen Christians. No Satanists.

Looking at our VFW Post... these dudes regularly tell me grotesque war stories over a casual beer. I see one Cymri Pagan, one Buddhist (yes! he converted to his Vietnamese wife's religion), one Native American, and approximately 45 Christians.

Moving on to my husband's unit in the war, there were four Pagans of various stripes, two African-American Muslims, one Jew, and the remainder Christians.

Now tell me again, who are the most violent people, based on religion?